floele Report post Posted June 9, 2005 A new alpha version (for all donors) has been released today. This time audio burning is implemented (not completely finished though). There is no new language file yet, this will follow soon with version 3.5.101.7 which is supposed to be quite "feature complete". If you find any bugs, let us know in beta forum. Download the new version as always in the beta topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SAD Report post Posted June 12, 2005 Give us a new version of plublic realease.. Only ofr donors is not fair.. The freeware is just now a term, not a reality.. :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted June 12, 2005 I knew someone would say this It may be that we make an alpha version public soon, but at the moment you have to accept that we won't publish an unfinished version of CDBurnerXP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2005 Your search for software without bugs if to continue, never more we go to have a version stable of the program (to put them public). They know that the previous version (3.0.116) has some bugs serious and that the new never goes to be 100% stable. But they insist on you want to make one version without bugs. They leave me to laugh. You wants more donnors, but I find that instead of trying to gain more money, more users had to earn. If software is not to be gratuitous and of use for all, they change the license. Iif wants to gain money change license to shareware, and fight against NERO's, NTI etc Regards.. and dont try to make me fool.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted June 13, 2005 Your search for software without bugs if to continue, never more we go to have a version stable of the program (to put them public). They know that the previous version (3.0.116) has some bugs serious and that the new never goes to be 100% stable I never said that we want a bug free program (because I know that it's quite impossible) but we want to release a finished version. You wants more donnors, but I find that instead of trying to gain more money, more users had to earn More donors is good of course because we need the money to develop our program and pay the server. However, we are not going commercial or anything like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Report post Posted June 13, 2005 He, give these guys a chance - do you think they are hanging back on a full release because they enjoy annoying us? If the new version of CDBurnerXP Pro was released before it was ready, then everyone would download it, everyone would hate it because it didn't work properly, and the only decent freeware burning prog would go belly up! So, please be patient. This is not commercial software and it isn't produced by a team of software engineers who are paid to work full time to get CDBurnerXP Pro out by a certain date. Freeware is a very special thing in the Western world; in no other field of commercial endevour will you find people who so willingly give their services free of charge. Can you find a free plumber to fix your pipes? Can you find a mechanic who will repair your car for nothing? No. Yet it is just about possible to run a full suite of software for absolutely nothing. Yes, it is annoying to have to wait so long - but if it wasn't for the work of the CDBurnerXP Pro team you would have no choice but to buy commercial software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted June 13, 2005 Very well said, thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gotrek Report post Posted June 14, 2005 Hi. I"d like to say sth about "why it so loooong" or "release it plz". I like cdburnerxp, and I nearly worship ppl who develope freeware progs of such quality and that can be real alternative for moguls like Ahead (in this particular situation). I fully understand donors cause, but you've got to admit - the more ppl test software, the bigger chance of finding bugs. We've been hearing about new version of cdburnerxp since when? 6 months? 7? It's a lot of time to develope a stabile enough version IMHO. Some of you may be the users of Quinntessential Media Player, some may be not yet . There had been quite similar situation: the prog itself is a freeware alternative for WinAmp player - except it's much better. It has strong community, alive forums, plugins authors etc. In may 2004 author said, that parts of next version are being written for 5 months now, and we should expect next major version soon. Then ... he nearly dissapeared. Little or no responses on forums. After a year and "it's not yet because of political issues" explanation some users just let it out. Since january 2005 everybody was waiting for BIG comeback. Community got smaller, ppl turned to other apps. Finally new version showed up, but it's not that great step. All I'm saying: IMHO you should reconsider your politics. Creating freeware (and shareware) apps is a continous struggle with bugs, fixes etc, and the only way to maintain users, gain opinions, bug reports is to release new versions as they're ready enough. I just can't believe, that after soo long time new version of CDBurnerXP is such a crappy bugggy thing that you're afraid to show it to the world. Best regards, gotrek poland/europe/earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted June 14, 2005 but you've got to admit - the more ppl test software, the bigger chance of finding bugs. We've been hearing about new version of cdburnerxp since when? 6 months? 7? It's a lot of time to develope a stabile enough version IMHO. I don't think this is necessary...there are more than 100 donors registered and these already reported some important bugs. After a year and "it's not yet because of political issues" explanation some users just let it out. Since january 2005 everybody was waiting for BIG comeback. Community got smaller, ppl turned to other apps. Finally new version showed up, but it's not that great step. Well, we are not going to let it take a year and I also want the release as soon as possible because our website needs a refresh. I just can't believe, that after soo long time new version of CDBurnerXP is such a crappy bugggy thing that you're afraid to show it to the world. It isn't. But as you might know, the beta versions are a "reward" for all donors and the only one we can give. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MRT Report post Posted June 15, 2005 He, give these guys a chance - do you think they are hanging back on a full release because they enjoy annoying us? If the new version of CDBurnerXP Pro was released before it was ready, then everyone would download it, everyone would hate it because it didn't work properly, and the only decent freeware burning prog would go belly up! So, please be patient. This is not commercial software and it isn't produced by a team of software engineers who are paid to work full time to get CDBurnerXP Pro out by a certain date. Freeware is a very special thing in the Western world; in no other field of commercial endevour will you find people who so willingly give their services free of charge. Can you find a free plumber to fix your pipes? Can you find a mechanic who will repair your car for nothing? No. Yet it is just about possible to run a full suite of software for absolutely nothing. Yes, it is annoying to have to wait so long - but if it wasn't for the work of the CDBurnerXP Pro team you would have no choice but to buy commercial software. Well... There are a couple of other freeware burner apps on Windows platform, but theire few, and stuff like Burnatonce are a bit difficult in use, so CDBurnerXP Pro, a very good app with an easy and intuitive GUI, are a very welcome program for burning Data CD's, DVD's and such.... ( for Audio CD I rip with EAC and burn with Burrrn when on Windows). However, your post is Windows-centric, as there are several Linux/BSD/*nix apps to burn CD's and DVD's. (Who are not only free of charge, but comes with a license that also let's you read, modify and redistribute source code and binaries if you so desire; which spells free as in freedom, not only as in gratis. In such a case a discussion like this would be irrelevant.) Anyway, I think one should be grateful for the developing team using theire time and energy to make a freeware burning app for Windows platform. I agree there's no other really good free alternative on this OS. And it's up to them to define the rules. Accusing them of alternate motifs as done in post #4 in this thread seems both impolite and paranoid to me.... I'll use the opportunity to thank the team for a great app! And yes; it's possible to run an OS and a full suit of software for absolutely nothing (and absolutely legal). But not Windows. For one; the OS cost's money. And the argument that there's sofware and functionality wanting on Linux/BSD/*nix platforms doesn't hold up anymore in 2005, there's high quality software available for performing almost any task by now. And are there any problem finding sofware developers contributing for absolutely no financial gain? No, not at all..... BTW. An easy way to sample a glimpse of a modern Linux distro without having to install anything to harddisk are the Knoppix Live CD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest yankee Report post Posted June 15, 2005 Hi, I´ve used CDBXP for a rather long time and I tried to support it whereever I went. But why wait so long for a new version when you can get i.e. Nero practicly fo free ( as OEM for just 5€ ). Even the Coder´s of CDBXP have to admit that they never get their program so far. Of course I kown that all the work is being done in their sparetime and the skill´s of these guys are w/o a doubt great but the waiting isn´t much fun. Several month w/o an new version and in addition the new version using .NET. CDBXP sure is a great program. Good luck with the programm Greets yankee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted June 15, 2005 It shouldn't take to long now anymore since most is finished. I think we can make the last beta version (.4) public soon so that at least all those which have problems with current version (and all those who are interested in development) can try the new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 17, 2005 no!!! its a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sh1leshk4 Report post Posted June 19, 2005 Why is it there's always a troll over everything? Anyway, give Flo and the rest of the team a break. They're trying to give you all out their best w/o ever hassling you. And there you go asking every once in awhile, b!tching over why Betas aren't released publicly. Did Flo force you to pay for his software? No. And if you think he forced you to pay (be a donor) by holding out Betas, think again. Did Flo force you to be a donor? No. And if you think Betas are what forcing you to be a donor, think again. Now, what's wrong w/ holding out Betas? What's wrong w/ holding out incomplete programs? Flo's just trying to give the public the best of CDBurnerXP Pro when the new version really comes out. Not some crippled, bug-ridden, software. Come to think of it, that's why being a donor is totally voluntary. They pay to test out Betas that could just as well as messing up their systems. Think about it. What I don't get is why would anyone still coming back for CDBurnerXP Pro while most of you probably already got your own burning software for free from burner vendors. Is it coz it's an OEM version? Is it coz it's outdated? Is it coz u don't want to pay more for getting a decent burning software? If your reason is (or includes) the last one, then you're just being a cheap bastard that wants quality for free. No one forces anyone to use CDBurnerXP Pro, nor even to pay for it. If you don't like its slow development, you can stop using it. If you don't like getting old versions unlike the donors, you can stop using it. In fact, if you don't like anything related to CDBurnerXP Pro including Flo, you can stop using it. That, and I'm still wondering why people keep coming back and b!tching about Flo's policy regarding Betas... And if anyone's wondering, I am by no means part of the donors or even the development team. I was just reading through comments and was pretty irritated w/ you cheap bastards. ~justMy$0.02... ~sorryIfIOffendedAnyone... ~unlessYou'reACheapBastard... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dartois@xs4all.nl Report post Posted June 20, 2005 I believe that it is principally a good program - save for the fact that it is often failing to copy to cd caused by: "flaw exists in power calibration area (1048) Error sense data: Sense Key: 3ASC: 73 ASCQ: 3 It works: now and then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coachlinda Report post Posted June 21, 2005 I would like to try the alpha version. How do I get signed up? I have made a donation as of yesterday to the originator, S. Haglund through PayPal. I know we need to get permission to access the downloads, am I correct? Do I receive an email or wait for permission? Linda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted June 21, 2005 See my last reply in the donors topic (sticky). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 5, 2005 Why is it there's always a troll over everything? Because of the way I acted once before, I was afraid you would think this guest was me. It is not. I also appreciate the work that is being done here, and wouldn't want to slow things down with minor bug fixes only in each build. On an unrelated note, MRT mentions the open source license, which reminds me of how much it mirrors FMA (Family Movie Act) which states the home user may modify or skip unwanted or objectionable sections of a commercial movie, if the original version can also be seen, and the film must not be seen in its edited form outside of the home. ClearPlay is the one who endorses this bill (the 2005 version was signed by Bush), and I have been speaking to them about it. I don't support the current wording of the bill (which the MPAA doesn't like), but I do think it has some very good potensial for the DMCA, only it does have some problems with file sharing and child porn. I also think the filters for this technology should be completely free. You pay a one time charge for their service, ordering the player, and get the first few filters free, when a limited time on the filters expire, go to the free section of their site and download more filters. When those filters expire, repeate the process. As it is, you have to pay about 20 or 30 dollars for each filter, and I think that's just wrong. In fact, that may even be illegal! The bill also says that the ads and TV commercials within the movie must be seen in full. I'm not certain about credits though. Sorry Flo, I just needed somewhere to say this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 16, 2005 Sorry I was going on like that. I just needed to get that out. Anyway, that's good news that you're just one build away from a final version! Is it expected within a few weeks or something? May I promote a few video editors here? By the way, there's a locked spyware thread here that got out of control, can I just say one more thing (a positive) about it? I'll PM for approval if needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted July 16, 2005 Is it expected within a few weeks or something? I really don't know. But as soon as our next version (beta/alpha) is released, you can estimate the release date yourself by watching our bug tracking system. May I promote a few video editors here? I won't stop you Well, what are those "video editors" supposed to do? By the way, there's a locked spyware thread here that got out of control, can I just say one more thing (a positive) about it? No, please let this topic rest in peace If you need to say something, wait for the next spyware discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 16, 2005 I found a great program (current version not as full featured as next version) I think would be a good CDBurner companion (must be combimed with 2nd program), and it's free! The freeware program is called DubIt. The audio editor can delete (not mute) the musical score or soundtrak from a movie, and insert your own downloaded sounds or ripped music (next version will include recoder for recording your own voice with more formats supported). The program can also convert multiple bmp or jpg pictures, to make a slide show you can add wave music to (custom effects and transitions will be in next version). I've been making the slides real fast, so it would turn out as a short movie clip. If you use this program, you must back up your sounds and music first, so use a movie sound extractor. A nice eazy to use one is AVI 2 WAV Extractor. It has a very simple interface, and it's freeware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 16, 2005 Apparently it can also do some things I didn't know it could do. Recorder is now implimented and supports gif as well as bmp and jpg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 24, 2005 I really don't know. But as soon as our next version (beta/alpha) is released, you can estimate the release date yourself by watching our bug tracking system. It just sounded like it was coming soon the way you put it. Looking at the bug tracking chart, gives me a new appreciation of all the hard work everybody is putting into this. From chief engenier to the doners themselves, and of course you, for taking the time to hear our gripes about it on the forums. I also admire that you are giving this to us for free, with no advertizers behind the product. I was just wondering how many versions you will have to go through before the final version. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floele Report post Posted August 24, 2005 It is not a matter of versions but rather a matter of time. And currently Stefan and Fredrik don't have much of them. They will have in autumn again so I guess that the final version will be available in winter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 26, 2005 It is not a matter of versions but rather a matter of time. And currently Stefan and Fredrik don't have much of them. They will have in autumn again so I guess that the final version will be available in winter. So I guess it really is possible it will be out in the first quarter of 2006. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
