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Hi Guys,

I do appreciate a lot your software, good features and excellent quality.

BUT ... you should have told your users that a spyware related

to BingoFun Games is being installed at the time CDBurnerXP Pro is

installed.

This would have been fair to inform people who use your software,

and at the same time describe what this spyware/adware actually does !

Thanks for your explanation

Claps

Clapi your S/W angel

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No, CDBXPP is free of spyware. I don't know how you can conclude that it contains spyware, but I would have noticed that...

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And what program do you use for scanning? My registry is free of such spyware although I have this program installed. Maybe you should try other programs to check your system.

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Oh, no. Not Pest Patrol. It always detects spyware on my system, even if it is clean (they only want to sell their program because they don't offer free cleanups, it's the same with symntec online virus and security scan).

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Group: Bingofun.com

Vendor Notes: From the web site: 'The area below the Game Info Bar displays different ads that might be of interest to you. If you want to visit the site, simply click on the banner. Your browser will automatically jump to the linked site. If you are playing, the ad banner might display in a box next to the games bingo cards. If you are not playing, the ad banner is large covering the area of the cards.'

Category: Adware: Software that brings ads to your computer. Such ads may or may not be targeted, but are "injected" and/or popup, and are not merely displayed within the form of an ad-sponsored application.

Similar Pests: Adware

Origins

Group: Bingofun.com

Date of Origin: January, 2003

Distribution

Prevalence: BingoFun Games: 0.1% of all pest reports (88 per 100,000 reports) More Info

Clot Factor: BingoFun Games: On average, 22 objects detected in each machine

The "Clot Factor" is a measure of how much a pest "gums up" a machine by adding registry entries, files, and directories. As more objects are placed in a machine, manual removal becomes more difficult and more error-prone.

Countries Affected: In the past three months, we have received reports of BingoFun Games in Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela.

Growth: BingoFun Games: Increased 1000.0% over the last 90 days

Clapi your S/W angel

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I already had a look. I think two freeware programs are more relieable than an onlinescan of someone who wants the people to think they have spyware installed on their system that no other program will find, so that someone buys his program...

Apart from that, I have no bingo banners or anything else on my system that behaves like spyware or adware....

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Why don't you have a look manually at your register ???

And then ask yourself why does CDBurnerXP install this stuff if this is of no use ????

I'm just asking .... You may then think twice !

Having said this, I do maintain that CDBurnerXP is an excellent software and the programmers

are top notch.

I'm only disapointed about hiding the complete story to the users. That's all.

Clapi your S/W angel

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I don't think these registry keys do not exist (although this scan was a bit too fast for the results it found, one second is a bit very short time to scan a complex regitry [;)]) but they don't contain spyware. Did you never heard about that some anti-spyware programs find spyware that is no spyware? Or that antivirus software that does find viruses that are no viruses? At least the antivirus programs have to correct these mistakes, because the customers will notice and complain about that.

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I'm only disapointed about hiding the complete story to the users. That's all.


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There is no "complete story". Why should this software get any spyware? It is not the only freeware program on the world...

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OK,

Assuming there is no spyware ... in this case why does CDBurner Pro modify the register with all

this **** that is then recognized as Spyware ???

By the way, are you the developper of this software ?

Clapi your S/W angel

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No, I am not [:D]

I think CDBXPP need these keys for saving settings (uninstallation information also I think) and to write data into the registry that it needs when you use the program. Instead of putting everything into files, you can also use registry keys (at least I think so, I am no programmer).

I will be offline now, we can discuss later if you don't trust me...[;)]

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Let's do one thing since you're not the developper.

Have you noticed a file named XceedFTP.dll in your c:/programs/CDBurnerXP/ folder ??

Do you know what this one is used for ???

Let me tell you: FTP Transfers !!!!

Introduction

Current Version : 1.1

Reach out and talk to an FTP server

The Xceed FTP Library is a software component that provides developers with a host of useful functions for sending, receiving and manipulating files on a remote FTP server via the FTP protocol.

The FTP protocol

The FTP protocol is a relatively simple protocol that allows access to a remote file system in a standard way. It offers commands for manipulating and navigating remote directories, manipulating remote files (rename, delete, etc.), and transferring files. It is designed to be used interactively by human users as well as by automated processes.

FTP is the de facto protocol used for transferring files on the Internet. Huge public software archives use FTP. Many organisations use FTP as a means to transfer data files between offices. Software companies often provide updates via an FTP server. Even with the emergence of HTTP, used to fetch files from a server, FTP is still widely used.

FTP support

The Xceed FTP Library provides access to the complete functionality of the FTP protocol and is firewall friendly.

Optimized

The Xceed FTP Library is the only library that takes full advantage of the Winsock-2 networking API, including taking advantage of overlapped I/O and using I/O completion ports when running on Windows NT/2K/XP. The FTP Library's I/O engine is based on the highly-optimized Xceed Winsock Library which means low processor overhead for your transfers.

Simplicity at its best

The Xceed FTP Library is designed to offer maximum flexibility and features while being the easiest to use product of its kind. Sending and receiving one or more files can be accomplished with only a single line of code.

Adding a few extra lines will allow developers to accomplish everything else - even to build a full-featured FTP client (like "CuteFTP" or "WS-FTP") if they want to. A sample FTP client with fully commented source code is included with the library, along with many other samples in various languages.

Clapi your S/W angel

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By the way, don't take me wrong : it is not a matter of trusting you or not

especially since you're not the developper of the software !!

Here it is simply a way to understand what may be going on in our back without

being informed ...

Call this paranoia if you want, but my experience has shown so far that

with software (especially free software) you can expect a lot of funny tricks ...

Clapi your S/W angel

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Hey,

Further investigations at the assembly level (specialist know-how of course !)

shows that all ingredients are here to initiate file transfer ...

So ... Sorry to say, the users should get some explaination from the

developpers: WHAT IS GOING ON ?????

Have a look at the following extracted code :

aDestinationfil: ,0

off_6799FBD8 dd offset aServeraddress ; DATA XREF: sub_67979CF0+88r

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aServerport ; "ServerPort"

db 67h ; g

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aUsername ; "UserName"

db 64h ; d

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aPassword ; "Password"

db 65h ; e

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aDestinationfil ; "DestinationFilename"

dd offset aRepresentation ; "RepresentationType"

db 95h ; •

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aPassivemode ; "PassiveMode"

db 30h ; 0

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aFirewalltype ; "FirewallType"

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aFirewalladdres ; "FirewallAddress"

db 0F5h ; õ

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aFirewallport ; "FirewallPort"

db 0F6h ; ö

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aFirewalluser ; "FirewallUser"

db 0F7h ; ÷

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aFirewallpasswo ; "FirewallPassword"

db 0F8h ; ø

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aLocaldataaddre ; "LocalDataAddress"

db 2Ch ; ,

db 1 ;

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aAccountname ; "AccountName"

db 69h ; i

dd offset iidInterface

dd offset aAllocatestorag ; "AllocateStorage"

db 90h ;

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Just reading this topic made me look into the files installed. Yes there is FTP capability, try click check for a new version.

How would you do this without FTP?

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I noticed it also. I wonder if the developer uses this to work on any "bugs" in the program. I wonder also if the xceedFTP.dll file can be deleited from the program? I really don't have a problem with CDBPXP. Works great!

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NO! It is just for transferring update information. Nothing more. No spyware. This software is not made by Microsoft [B)]

So your investigations are useless. I would know if CDBXPP transfers personal Data to any server, because I have a firewall and make good use of it. CDBXPP only conntects for checking for a new version and only if you click the button. Do you don't need to worry about that. And I think you will notice, that a lot of programs use files for FTP transfers like that, because they also retrive information from the internet for updates.

Maybe you shouldn't be that critical and first check the functions of a program you use before you find any spyware. And the best exaple for commerical spyware is Windows XP, but I think you already noticed that...BTW, if you are such a spyware spcialist, why do you use PestPatrol to detect spyware?? A lot more suspicious than CDBXPP....(full system scan in less than 1 minute [actually 2 secs or something like this] and spyware that no other free software detecs).

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I noticed it also. I wonder if the developer uses this to work on any "bugs" in the program. I wonder also if the xceedFTP.dll file can be deleited from the program?


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To work on bugs they let you send an email (if you want) when an error occurs. That contains a ZIP-file with some information about your system - stop thinking at this point, NO personal data or anything like that.

You can't remove that file, because then CDBXPP starts to reinstall to get the lost file.

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Call this paranoia if you want, but my experience has shown so far that

with software (especially free software) you can expect a lot of funny tricks ...


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Which freeware programs use these "funny tricks"? I would like to know, maybe it is the same with CDBXPP then...

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How would you do this without FTP?


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You could use HTTP instead of FTP, but that woulnd't make a big difference.

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Hey Ledyba,

Please don't take it personnally ! Especiially sinc eyou're not the developper of CDBurnXP.

You have to realize that keeping an eye on what may be going on, and

asking questions is a safe practice when you deal with computers and

software.

Having a program that stubbornly re-install file transfer information -even after you removed the feature from the register files ...obviously look suspicious; Don't you think so ?

Clapi your S/W angel

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Hey Ledyba,

Please don't take it personnally ! Especiially sinc eyou're not the developper of CDBurnXP.


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I won't, but don't say that CDBXPP has spyware althogh it does not have. Be a bit more sensible...

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You have to realize that keeping an eye on what may be going on, and

asking questions is a safe practice when you deal with computers and

software.


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You didn't ask, you just shot...

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Having a program that stubbornly re-install file transfer information -even after you removed the feature from the register files ...obviously look suspicious; Don't you think so ?


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No, because other wise errors would occur. And noone want errors. It is a rational feature, to implement auotmatic repair (not for spyware, but CDBXPP has no spyware...).

BTW, the program is not supposed to be edited by the users, you can't just remove the features you don't want...And if such things happen by mistake, the rapair install is the best thing that could happen.

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First of all, CDBurnerXP does not contains any spyware and it's never going to, personally I hate thoose programs. And as Ledyba tells you there are a ftp control that transfers two small text files to a directory named 'updates' in the CDBurnerXP home dir. This is to check if the version of CDBurnerXP and put a message in the Check Version dialog. This control is replaced in the next version with a new control that uses the html protocol to transfers thoose two files. So hopefully this is the last time that I hear of spyware in my program, this is a free software and I hope that as many as possible enjoy using it. And sure there are bugs, but we working hard to fix them and release as bug free versions as possible.

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Originally posted by clapiton

If you want to bet I can prove it.


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Oh, I forgot to bed...maybe I had made a lot of money with that [:D]

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I've even no Spyware on my Pc after I installed CDBurnerXP Pro!!!

And it doesn't contains any spyware!

Even computer-magazines tested CDBurnerXP Pro and found any spyware in it!

Perhaps you have installed some other Progs containing Spyware, so it would be your fault!!!

And please maintain anything you can't proof!

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